NLD, NVLD

== Merger Proposal ==
The article [[Multisystem Developmental Disorder]] appears to be describing the same condition as [[Multiple-complex Developmental Disorder]], so I have proposed they be merged into this article. There does not appear to be much information about these developmental disorders, so I would rather see if anyone else with a little expertise on multiplex developmental disorder has to say before I just merge them.--[[User:NeantHumain|NeantHumain]] 18:33, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
*'''Strong oppose'''. Not the same thing at all. Multi-system developmental disorder has nothing to do with anxiety or phobias. Please do not just assume that because the names sound similar they must be the same thing. --[[User:Woggly|woggly]] 19:59, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

I hope you don't mind I've gone ahead an removed the merge label, as it seemed to me that you suggested the merge only because you knew less than I do about the difference between these two terms. I've also expanded the Multisystem Developmental Disorder article to clarify the distinction. MultiSYSTEM Developmental Disorder is a diagnosis applied only to small children, and is a relatively mild disorder. MultiCOMPLEX Developmental Disorder comes with a lot more baggage: severe emotional and behavioral problems, panic attacks etc. I agree that the terms sound too similar, I would change them if I could, but unfortunately I was not granted that power. ;-) --[[User:Woggly|woggly]] 06:33, 17 July 2006 (UTC)


"But every Autist isn't the same." Seems like somebody wants to feel better about their identity.  <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/24.59.157.136|24.59.157.136]] ([[User talk:24.59.157.136|talk]]) 14:05, 6 February 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Moving opinion by 81.207.229.124 from article to discussion ==

I took this out of the article; not sure if it was worth saving, but just in case:

"But every Autist isn't the same.
the article that you are reading doesn't go up for every MCDD'er
i know because i have MCDD.
short explanation:
you just see an apple.
i see the apple more complex.
i'm very good with PC's but awfully bad with topography and Dutch.
in group 4 i was working english at the level of someone that is in group 8!"
(Animaster, holland)
Addition by 81.207.229.124
(Moved by [[User:Wikimancer|Wikimancer]] ([[User talk:Wikimancer|talk]]) 10:22, 8 February 2008 (UTC))

It is interestant.


==From the fuzzy borderline of Asperger syndrome and NLD==


===Main subject===


'''you just see an apple''' - new ''' [[catch phrase]] ''' - this [[incoherent]] sentence about false ideas that [[adolf h.]] had AS. This is a big [[lie]]!!!!


===Other things===


* Interest, yes?
* What's the kegspinning... about [[NLD]], [[McDD]], [[AS]], [[ADHD]] and many others
* [[Psychical disorders]] can not exist! It can be made by evil ghost?
'''- [[NLD]] is no in [[autism spectrum]] and AS is in [[autism spectrum]] AS is a [[pervasive developmental disorder]] and [[NLD]] is a [[learning disorder]] but they are practically the same!''' bigger [[kegspinning]]!
* In my country diagnoses [[NLD]] and [[McDD]] practically don't exist. Only [[F84.5]] is given.
* Do you know what is [["the difference"]]? This is it what [[differences]] [[AS]] [[autism]] and [[NLD]] common [[learning disorder]] like popular [[dyslexia]]
* People with AS don't play [[role]]s and [[NLDer]]s can make it they '''aren't''' in [[autism spectrum]] they're normal because they have good [[imaginatory]] and [[theory of mind]]
* I tap the finger like real [[NLDer]] ("[[the NLD's gesture]]")
* [[Greetings]] for all


==Bypass of Ketinolei==


* NLD - AS -HFA
* F42 - SztPD - PdS

too many trucks between NLD and roundabout with road from SztPD to F42 and people can't sleep 17 inches road practically only big trucks (5673 in day) the transit to NLD and F42 from West is very so big

People from [[Ketinolei]] go to the road nr 67 and totally blocked it and 12 miles of trucks stands both lanes

* They want only bypass of they little city...
* Here should be the highway not this "road"


===situation Map===


I think that is not a good map...


                                                                   
  HFA
                                                                                                      ADHD
                                            AS
                                                                    F42



                                                                                 
             
                                                                             * [[Ketinolei]] City

                                   
                                                                                        NLD

                                             SztPD
 

                         

  PdS
                                                                   



                                                                             [[Depression]]s




==[[Abstract]] of Hyperimagination==


'''Hyperimagination''' is a group of some severe psychiatric disorders which characterised very good level of [[cognitive processing]] but characteristical skills (e.g. sociel interactions, emotional level) are practically the same than in low-imaginated form. Often have strong compulsive character, causes excitation. Hyperimaginating forms of:

* [[autism]] (F85.4.0)
* [[Schizophrenia]] (F85.4.1)
* [[Mental retardation]] (F85.4.2)

Signs?

===Opinion===


This disorder isn't a disorder. Imagination is necessary disturbed in this conditions.


==Real [[hyperimaginative paranoid-disregulative disorder]] (McDD) and [[hyperimaginative autistic-anancastic disorder]] (HAAD)==


The first disorder is [[normal child]] which had toxic [[autistic traits]] but this second condition is based on any [[autistic disorder]] with characteristic imagination progress. First diorder is many uncontrollable and have big troubles to different real and fiction and second is usually "hypercontrollable" and have more autistic behaviours. In both disorders lacks in the theory of mind not must be so big like in F84.0 but practically always they have problems (less or bigger) with speech and understanding. McDD beliefs in delusions and HAAD in specific compulsion and disorder start early. People with this disorders aren't '''[[aspies]]''' or [[auties]]. Any real [[aspie]] have HI.


===[[Hyperimagination]] characteristics:===

* strange emotion (uncontrollable, ''children-feelings, troubles with feeling loneliness, specific character of contact'')   
* anxiety of physical sufferity,'' totrures, risk of morbid [[eschatomania]], things which don't exist'' - [[safety pattern disorder]]
* strange forms of mood problems - ''[[unusual sadness feelings]], [[excitation wave]]s''
* often appears like [[schizotypal personality]]: ideas of '''delusions usually "accepted" in McDD'''; ''strange, often very unpleasant beliefs, sppech and thinking'', disturbations in affect, characteristic behaviour and appearance, many paranoid fears   
* ''obsessive-compulsive disorder with "magic" beliefs and specific strange characteristics'', sometimes similarities to schizophrenic, ''very intensive''
* '''disorganisation''' in behaviour and '''incoherences with expression emotions'''
* specific unusual perceptual experiences often with '''[[hallucination]]s'''
* ''obsessive, strong visual and auditory [[fantasions]] ([[psychodelic thoughts]]), [[pathological thougts]] disorder''
* usually negative symptoms like in '''schizophrenia'''
* often '''[[formal thought disorder]]'''

Other symptoms:

* marked impairments in nonverbal behaviors
* strong failure to develop peer relationships
* lack of social or emotional reciprocity
* troubles with [[theory of mind]] and general speech or/and language
* extremal preoccupation with stereotyped and restricted patterns of interest that is abnormal either in intensity or focus
* a lot of stereotyped and repetitive mannerisms
* significant troubles in sensory integration and motor skills

The better form of curation is controlling this, what you is thinking and help with other.

==Causes==


* own sin??? and laziness
* probably brain damages similar/like in autistic disorders?
* [[environment]]?


==[[The big borderlines]]==

* [[First big borderline]] ([[developmental borderline]]) - AS (PDD, ASD) and NLD (LD) - very similar
* [[Second big borderline]] ([[later borderline]]) - [[obsessive-compulsive disorder]] ([[neurotic disorder]]) especially with many ''[[controlling compulsions]]'', [[schizotypal disorder]] ([[mental illness]] from ScS), [[schizoid personality]] ([[mental disorder]] - not illness, controversies about named it "a very mild form of [[schizophrenia]]")
* [[Mixed big borderline]] ([[pervasive borderline]]) - the group of developmental(-like) disorders similar to [[disorders]] from both group

===High-contrast borderline (HCB)===


* Mainly NLD and [[obsessive-compulsive disorder]] traits and this diagnosis is easier to make- attack by "possible" and powers the "[[voltage]]" ("[[hyperpression disorder]]") - can be very destructively despite being not a mental illness, needs special therapy, loss the character of [[learning disorder]] and [[neurotic disorder]] but isn't a [[mental illness]].


===Low-contrast borderline (LCB)===


* Mainly AS and [[schizotypal disorder]] - attack by "deficits" and person have lower control about that, what the person make - can be less total psychic destructively, don't need special therapy